How to prove the relationship: step by step guide
A Life / / December 19, 2019
Why is it necessary to prove the relationship?
Proof of relationship may be required when you make a contract of gift, if gift certificate is issued for a close relative, the donee shall be exempt from taxation.
In addition, proof of kinship for sure you'll need to study your family history. In the first place, so to speak, for themselves to understand who to whom necessary. Secondly, for the possibility of obtaining new documents and new data on the basis of the data and documents that you already have.
Where to begin?
First you need to make sure you have a valid (ie not spoiled or expired) passport. And yet, you will need a birth certificate.
And if a birth certificate is lost for a long time?
You can recover it. It's easy. To obtain a birth certificate, you will need to come to the registry office, where the registration of your birth. If you live in another city, you can write a letter to the Registry Office with a request to send a copy of your birth certificate to the registrar at the place of your current residence.
Will I have from me anything, except a passport?
Yes, it required but not too much. You will need to fill out an application in the prescribed form (forms are almost always there in the lobby) and pay the state fee in the amount of 350 rubles. Do the latter is better in advance, then you will not have to queue twice. Bank details can be found on the website of the regional registry office, as well as in the Civil Registry Office: samples on the stands, and sometimes ready receipt on the table.
How long is a duplicate?
At first you may have to sit (or stand) in queue. There could be as lucky. Somewhere you will immediately, but somewhere waiting to last an hour, or even two.
But if you took all the documents in your order, then a duplicate will leave about 15 minutes. Registrar workers will thank you if you tell the most of your existing data. Needless certificate has been lost, but can be kept a photocopy? If so, then this copy, you can retrieve important data: date and assembly record number. That is, quite simply, do you know when and under what number is your birth was registered in the registration book.
Can I get a birth certificate of his grandparents, who have already died?
Yes, in principle, possible. I personally received repeated birth certificates of both her grandmothers. But we must act in stages.
So, you have a testimony of his own birth. Let us first consider the simplest case: you're a man and you want to get the birth certificate of his grandfather on his father.
If grandfather was born before the revolution, then you need to apply not to the registry office, and the Regional Archives, which holds the church books. There, if you're lucky, you'll find evidence of the baptism of his grandfather (if he was a Christian), or any similar records - in the event that he belonged to a different religion.
If grandfather was born after the revolution (or rather, since the second half of 1918), then you may well find his birth certificate.
What documents will I be required to do?
To obtain a birth certificate for your grandfather to his father to you, first, it requires all the same documents, and that for his own birth certificate passport, application payment receipt registration fee.
Second, you will need to prove his relationship with his grandfather. How to do it? You will need to show employees the registrar an additional document - birth certificate of your father.
However, there is one more thing. You get a document on another person. If this man was alive, he must give you a power of attorney, which clearly would have been written down that you have the right to obtain for him the documents from the registrar (usually included in the so-called general disc power of attorney). If a person has died, you will need to prove this fact (that is, to provide a death certificate), and also, once again, prove the relationship, because strangers confidential information and documents are not issue.
And you can once more, but shorter?
Of course, please. If you want to get the birth certificate of her deceased paternal grandfather, you will need:
- Your passport;
- your birth certificate that includes your father;
- birth certificate of the father, which, as his father was not your grandfather;
- certificate of death of his grandfather;
- receipt of payment of registration fee;
- application for issuance of re-birth certificates of your grandfather.
Is it possible to do all of this somehow easier?
Unfortunately not. But if you proceed in stages, everything is not so bad. If you have lost your birth certificate - to restore it. If a lost birth certificate of your father - let him recover his own or to write a power of attorney for you. If the father is no longer alive, you have every right to get his birth certificate, submit all the necessary documents (including certificate of his father's death).
And if I need to get the death certificate of his great-grandfather?
It is also quite possible. Just a couple of weeks ago I myself received the death certificate of my grandfather - my mother's father's mother. It took me:
- my passport;
- my birth certificate;
- birth certificate of my mother;
- marriage certificate of my mother (to document the change of name);
- birth certificate of my grandmother;
- marriage certificate of my grandmother;
- receipt of payment of registration fee.
Statement I do not mention here, as in the Meshchansky registry office of the city of Moscow, where I got this witness statement is filled by the employees themselves, you only undersign. It happens in some other parts of the registrar.
And if I want to get a death certificate great grandfather?
And it is, in principle, is also possible, but more complicated. Let's say your great-grandfather died after the revolution - then a registry office already existed. But your great-grandmother, his daughter - or, respectively, the great-grandfather, his son - probably born before the revolution. This means that a local archive you will need to obtain archival record, which will contain information from the pre-revolutionary metric books. And so with all the necessary certificates issued by the registry office, and with this certificate, you You do not get in the registry office, and in the regional archive, you come to the registry office, where it was registered the death of your great grandfather.
What if I do not know what the registry office to get this or that testimony?
Until recently, in such cases it was necessary to apply to the regional registrar. management employees to search, and then sent to you via e-mail the result of: a birth certificate, say, your grandfather you can get in such a registry office; such and such a date, a certain assembly record number.
Now the situation has changed a bit, at least in Moscow. You have to come in any registry office (the easiest way - the nearest to your home or work) and write a statement on a special form, specifying in it the maximum available data. After that your application goes into all the same control and you get the answer. Of course, it can be both positive and negative - in the event that they found nothing.
Where to look for documents, if you already do not have the registry office, where she married my grandmother?
Yes, it happens. But this does not cause great inconvenience, since all movements are monitored and recorded by archival holdings. All the information, as a rule, is on the site of the regional registrar.
Whether it is worth all of this?
This is a matter of personal preference. But from my own experience I can say that it is not too difficult. Having produced a couple zagsovskih evidence, you get a certain skill. Receive fourth and fifth certificate will be easier.